(Message 2): This message by Andy Stanley addresses those of us who may have walked away from the church or from God based on a "somebody-told-me-so god". Most people walk away from the wrong god, a god who never existed to begin with. The God of history and God of the Bible is someone worth believing in.

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  1. Andy Stanley made the statement that the things we are the least aware of are the things that are most constant. For example, did you wake up aware that you are American this morning? Do you ever comment on the room temperature when it's perfect? Can you think of any others? Share.
  2. Have you ever listened to someone's de-conversion story? If so, what thoughts and emotions did it stir in you? How did you respond?
  3. To what extent do you associate religion with guilt? How do you think that has shaped your view of God?
  4. Has there ever been a time when God didn't respond to your circumstances the way you wanted or expected? If so, what did that experience do to your faith?
  5. During the message, Andy said that the choice between God and science is a false alternative and that, "If everything was explained and explainable, it would not explain away God." Do you agree? Why or why not?
  6. Do you tend to view God as one of the No Testament gods--the bodyguard god, on-demand god, boyfriend god, guilt god, anti-science god, gap god, and angry-Old Testament god?  If so, what would it take for you to begin to see Him differently?
  7. Andy gave the example of adjusting the truths of where babies come from to accommodate the level of knowledge of the person who is being addressed. It is modified from the way it's explained for a young child to the way it is explained to a medical student.
    • Do you have views of God that need to grow up to accommodate your current level of maturity?
    • Are you clinging to views of God that don't match your current reality?
  8. What if the God someone is walking away from never existed to begin with?

*Andy mentioned a third message coming "next week" regarding a "Bible-told-me-so-Jesus". You can see the message he delivered at North Point Community Church by going here: www.whoneedsgod.com (Part 3).

Daily Scripture Reading:

Day 1:  Psalm 46:1-6

Day 2:  Psalm 46:7-11

Day 3:  Psalm 36:1-6

Day 4: Psalm 36:7-12

Day 5: Philippians 4:4-9

Day 6: Philippians 4:10-13

Day 7: Isaiah 40:27-31

Who needs God?

Many feel stuck in the middle.

 

Christian de-conversion:

  • Grew up in a religious environment
  • Experienced a childhood conversion
  • Transitioned to an irreligious environment (and liked it, a lot!)
  • Began asking adult questions about childhood faith
  • Received faith-based answers to fact-based questions
  • Experienced a faith-crushing event
  • A somebody-told-me-so god
  • A Bible-tells-me-so Jesus (you can watch Part 3 here)

 

Our growing-up gods:

Bodyguard god

  • "A good God would not allow bad things to happen to good people. Since bad things never happen to good people, there must be a good God."

On-demand god

Boyfriend god

Guilt god

Anti-science god:

  • Quit thinking! Start believing!
  • God or science is a false alternative.

Gap god:

  • God conveniently shows up as an explanation for everything we can't currently explain.
  • Unexplainable today, may be explainable tomorrow.
  • Unexplainable is not evidence for the existence of God.
  • If everything were explained and explainable, it would not explain away God
  • (We should expect to find) a predictable, stable, explainable universe.

 

Question: Where did your view of the God you struggle to believe in originate?

Where do babies come from? It depends on who is asking.